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I hope it works out for you! You should definitely write the post because I feel like it would be so helpful! And I’ll do my best to answer (based on my personal experience, though of course I’m not a pro! But, I’m learning. $1 dollar, also buckets for mixing, clean up etc. Thanks! There seems to be a major flaw in your instructions, and so many who follow them will suffer from it. The good news to ceiling work is that you don’t have to seek perfection like you do walls for a few reasons: if there’s lighting in the ceiling observers will be “blinded” by the light, and they make ceiling paint which hides imperfections, however use decent ceiling paint…ceiling paint is FLAT paint which is whit w/ some black added to it to absorb light which hides small imperfections. I’m still a DIY-er at heart though. I found that using my 18v Skil battery-powered sander with 220 grit paper worked fantastic for smoothing out the layers. Thanks, I really appreciate the information. It made me smile. Gardz® is formulated to deeply penetrate and dry to a hard, moisture resistant film that seals and binds down … Well, since I can't respond directly to Anonymous messages, I'll do my best to answer for everyone who may have had this question. It is the strongest of them all, but is hardest to sand and apply…however it dries from the outside in which means you can begin to sand some or apply another coat before completely dry…WARNING if it starts to turn more clayish in the pan you need to dump it and make a new batch- you WILL NEVER sand out the edges once it starts to dry and will have to add more coats around the edges later. For my project, I was going from heavily textured walls that even with sanding were not really flat (not merely a little uneven from wallpaper, etc). You're just doing the equivalent of choosing a primer for a repaint, really. I call several contractors (whose prices were out of this world). I have a son with an ugly duckling house. Apply your joint compound to fill in the damaged areas and lightly sand to feather in the edges. So you suggest to use an oil based primer over water based primer. I’ve peeled it as close as possible. This tutorial is amazing!! Wow! It goes on with the same whitish/blue tint, and dries to a clear finish. Cheers again for your inspiration. Are you using the “green” Sheetrock brand all-purpose joint compound thinned down and/or the lightweight “blue”? zinsser's gardz and skim coating. – Ed Beal Jul 4 … We were quoted about $1k to have it done, so I was motivated to head to the big box store for the supplies and spent $47 bucks…wowzers. Thanks Sarah for this wonderful and helpful post! Rust-Oleum Zinsser Gardz Problem Surface Sealer prevents bubbles that form when damaged drywall is skim coated with spackling or joint compound. It is coming along though; primed my hallway and 2 of the walls in my main living space, I took my time and have to admit I am sick of it already! You’ve reached the right compound-to-water ratio. Thank you so much for sharing. Next lesson I’ve learned:  To do it right, you will have to put in the time and effort. They told me you can't skim over Zinnser Gardz. but, the dining room is another story. May 12, 2019 - Must save for later! In addition, I spent most of the night reading about your Ugly Duckly home and am very impressed. Wow! Glad it helped! Joint compound isn’t particularly strong. BEFORE to lock any wallpaper glue residue to the wall that might prevent your joint compound from sticking, and AFTER to penetrate your joint compound and harden it so your paint isn’t just sticking to a layer of joint compound dust. Lock down porous and crumbling surfaces with Rust-Oleum® Zinsser® GARDZ® Problem Surface Sealer. Thanks! I have heard you can dump in your yard but I also don’t want my grass to be totally white in some spots. We were told to PVA the walls before that coat of paint to help it 'stick', didn't work as it bubbled anyway, but now we can just wash the PVA off. I am gonna put it to the test as soon as I am done with this comment and visit Lowes to buy what I need. Thanks. Hey there! Thanks again! And MAKING THINGS. Anyhow I put a link on my blog to this page. thank you. We should have replaced the drywall, but instead, we floated the entire surface of the wall; 3 coats of mud. P.S. Then, I spackle, sand, and repeat as necessary until the wall is perfectly smooth. I just rang Zinnser to ask a related question. May 12, 2019 - Must save for later! 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These kits come with a connection hose that allows you to hook up the sander to a shop vac, eliminating about 90-95% of the dust that you will experience. GARDZ penetrates and seals damaged facing paper, restoring it to a sound surface for repairs, suitable for painting or wallcovering. Good luck on your fix! Thanks so much for this walkthrough, Sarah! As hard as I tried to get the wallpaper off evenly, and really I DID, and I think it would have been a LOT worse without the removal product I found, the hard truth is that I’m working with old drywall. I’m sorry to hear you’re having those kinds of issues! We intended to use Zinnser Gardz to seal the whole ceiling (damaged areas of plasterboard and the remaining unsealed plasterboard too), then apply a skim coat on the damaged areas, and then also seal this with Gardz. My question is: Can I apply the mud to the bare wall or should I primer first. My opinion is still relatively the same as when I first wrote this post. Thanks in advance! Fill in major dents/dings with a thicker version of the joint compound, let dry, then do your decorative texturizing! So, I’ve began my quest to strip & refinish the walls in those spaces, and I’m thankful for your wisdom and your sense of humor, but perhaps even more importantly, I was inspired to tell you the true story of my artist/daughter, Sarah. I think the most important thing to have is your playlist ready to go, I would recommend to connect a vacuum cleaner to your sander, this way you have very little sanding dust. Yes, on fresh board, the sponge method works great, and I would still recommend it as a last step in drywall repair or if filling in a single hole on drywall. I can’t honestly say I have enjoyed the actual work, but I loved following in your footsteps. On fresh gyp board it will fill in the surface of the paper as you work over the tape seam and nail head giving you a real thin skim coat. Thank you so much. http://blip.tv/easy-home-renos/product-review-richard-vac-pole-dust-free-drywall-sanding-kit-4273449. This material is porous, which means it soaks up a lot of paint. You can’t expect the sanding step to take care of all of the loose ends (trust me, the sanding part of four walls is a real pain, and you want to give yourself as smooth of a start as possible to prevent hours of correcting later). See terms and disclosure page for more info! This will not only help the paint stick, but will also give you a nice, smooth finish to accept your new paint job. It does have a rather strong odor but it is worth putting up with for a day to get better looking results. I used regular all-purpose drywall, not the lightweight compound – I’m not sure if this makes too much of a difference or not. - Do I need to sand the primer before painting? This is my first time reading your blog and as a lifespan human developmental/behavioral specialist (and professional trainer) I was truly impressed by your delightful tutorial on skim coating walls. I would highly recommend checking out my follow up post with additional tips for skim coating and the materials to use under/over it. Tomorrow I tackle the next stage of bathroom redo. I could have sworn I’ve visited your blog before but after looking at a few of the articles I … Lots of luck and be sure to wear a good breathing mask! Creating with my suggested methods, materials, and tools is under your own risk. Here's my latest project...had floor to ceiling mirrors in the living room of my new house...approximatley 20' x 9' area. I said this is what it says you can do on the tin. -Took down the mirrors - scraped off the adhesive off all the dywall (there was a ton!) On this first skim coating project example, I skim coat after wallpaper removal. But I have had less luck when repairing damaged drywall with the sponge method. Just remember that the purpose of Gardz is to prevent bleed through. I recently brought a house and thought taking the wallpaper down was going to be a breeze. After much sanding and patching and more sanding and 2 coats of Gardz the room is now painted and looks a treat. I am not sure if it has been noted earlier, but on 6″ and larger blades, there is a slight angle factory set in the blade. Here's my latest project...had floor to ceiling mirrors in the living room of my new house...approximatley 20' x 9' area.-Took down the mirrors - scraped off the adhesive off all the dywall … How to apply a skim coat video series. & the reason you don’t wipe your skim coat with a damp cloth — besides ruining all your hard work — is that primer is different than paint, & primer applied to walls with some dust will not flake off the way paint does. it’s been seven months and there’s no … Thank you for this. You will love the results. Topcoating/Wallpapering – When dry, GARDZ may be topcoated with any standard architectural water-base or oil-base primer or topcoat paint. Very helpful as we are now tackling our walls and rippng down wallpaper, and just now found your blog. Layers of it, with paint in between, before finally getting to the original plaster that of course crumbled in some places! Thank you for the information again and I will check back later. Yes Sarah ur welcome! Do you think this process would work on plaster, as well? Thank you! 100 points to, I eventually got the hang of timing my evening right so that I wouldn’t have leftover mud, but if you wind up with some. What steps and products would you use. The downside of having all boys is that you will have to repair your drywall on numerous occasions! Our bathroom has wallpaper on it that I’ve been working on getting rid of for a few months now. Should I tape it and try to make it work or is it too far gone and should replace the dry wall? It's been a learn-as-you-go experience. I use a different primer between sanding and painting. I like tearing my house apart and putting it back together again. Wasn’t an available formula when I first started DIYing, so it’s a relatively new product. I am going to do your method lol i am hoping it will work out well for me lol i am a single female and have never attempted anything like this before lol wish me luck. Feel free to let your words of wisdom and humor fly (there's no swear jar on this blog), but if you're overly spammy, rude, or just plain boring, you're just going to have to accept that your comment may not see the light of day. Skim coating is a texturing technique used to make a wall smooth. Thanks for sharing your journey with us! You’re so knowledgeable hahaha. This material is porous, which means it soaks up a lot of paint. It looks like the dry wall was never taped or skim coated. :). It’s been a few years since I wrote this post, so I highly recommend reading this update with even more advice on preventing bubbles in the drywall paper, good sealing products, tools that cut down dust, and finding the right primer before painting. In general you have to apply at least two skim coats to achieve a smooth surface. We just bought (well, a year ago) a 1975 house with a glued onto unprimed/painted drywall laminate backsplash in the kitchen and already painted over wallpaper in every bathroom!! ahenrypd PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member. I’m subscribing now so you can save me again! First of all, we should start by clearing up a myth:  most drywall by itself is not smooth. Now the glue layer seems permanently welded to the wall despite primer I applied to vinyl-covered wall board (mobile home) before papering. :). Tomato Tomahto. Thanks again! Ha. Thanks. Another reason for applying primer after you mud the walls is to make sure that the paint doesn't lose its sheen in any spot (dead giveaway of a patch job). Great tip! Apply primer and then paint? - used a razor to clean up the drywall tears and remove excess paper - rolled 2 coats of GARDZ over the wall (stuff is AMAZING!) I’m not going to tell you my sappy story, I just wanted to let you know that you saved my sanity…and my pride. Keep this in mind as I provide my advice…. X. The bubbling usually happens during the skim coat … GARDZ is recommended for: damaged drywall, new drywall, spackling and joint compound skim coats, plaster, calcimine, uncoated wallpaper, wallcovering adhesive residue, texture paint, … d over it. While every effort has been made to ensure the accuracy & effectiveness of the information displayed on this website, the Ugly Duckling House is for entertainment purposes only. And to answer the skim coating question, if the brown part isn't *too* gouged, you might be ok to just do the texture over the top, since it's supposed to be uneven anyway. The walls weren't prime, so when I removed the wallpaper on 1 wall I said their is no turning back. I’m skim-coating my dining room ceiling this weekend… wish me luck. And don’t be afraid to go over the same spot if you don’t like your first pass; the mud is thin and wet, so it’s forgiving until it begins to dry. Reply. It’s important to be systematic in your approach; any missed spots will be highlighted once you paint the wall. Your directions are easy to understand and real. Fixing old work sucks anyway you look at it but it seems you did it your way and came out good. Happy renewal! If using a shiny or sheen paint (any other than flat) you will need a flat or acrylic primer 1st then apply the sheen 2 coats. But, I did get a mask and glasses. This was very informative & easy to understand with your instructions & pictures. This easy step-by-step tutorial shows you how to skim coat damaged drywall after wallpaper removal (with my favorite products that make things easier!). Also, I was wondering if you had any tips for skimming the edges around windows and corners of the room? #diy #drywall #skimcoat #homerepair. Thank you for showing your before pictures. - Should I prime with a premium primer after the Gardz (I was recommended Benjamin Moore Fresh Start Multi-purpose Latex for it's mildew resistance)? Thank you so much for your tips!!! Is a tub spout with diverter to CODE on a regular bathtub with no shower? After skim-coating, priming, and painting my bathroom, I masked off the trim to paint it, and the painters tape pulled the paint and primer right off the joint compound. When ‘Sair’ was 5, and getting ready to start Kindergarten, she was practicing writing her name, and she asked me, “Momma, why does my name have an ‘H’ on the end?” Well, I had a dozen answers for her, but I paused for a second, puzzling over which one to offer her first… But before I could say a thing, Sair excitedly raised her hand, and she said, “I know! this tip, i think, applies only to painting an already-painted wall to a different color WITHOUT making any sort of repairs that require skim coating or sanding, right? Skim coat damaged drywall tips - how to repair walls after removing wallpaper. I never sand when I’m doing drywall. I’ve been there. If you’re going to be doing skim coats in several rooms like I am, consider investing in sanding screens instead of traditional wallpaper. Just remember that the purpose of Gardz is to prevent bleed through. Now I see that I was using waaaaay too thick a compound. I was literalllllly just looking for blog posts and how-to’s on this, hooray! That’s exactly the same as the situation I was in with my walls. It’s kind of like spray painting something: when you go in thinner coats rather than trying for full coverage all at once, the end result tends to look better. 2. While the idea sounds great and certainly lessens the dust (which does go everywhere), I found that I could not sand rapidly or precisely enough using the attachment. I totally revamped my dining room plans and switched out for custom paint colors to get the same blue you have in yours…waaaayyyy better thany original plan. (*Note:  some of these photos have been darkened to enhance the difference between the wet mud and wall – it’s hard to see off-white on white*), Add Sound-Dampening Drywall without Removing the Old, there’s another post about that where I recommend one that isn’t oil-based, Keeping your tools clean and ready for the next job is an important step that should not be missed. We bought a 1950’s house and – thankfully – there is only one room that really needs a full skim coat. Today, I show how to skim coat a wall after wallpaper removal in this step by step tutorial. Hopefully, my patience will pay off in the end! As it turns out I won't have to skim the whole area (thank goodness), just where the scraper dug in and exposed the rock. Will be pure entertainment for family, friends and the neighbors, but I refuse to be whipped by drywall! Sorry if it's a stupid question..just lost on what to use here....my gut feeling is I can use either and most likely still have a great looking wall when all is said and done, but I figured I would ask here before starting my prime coat over the skim coat. Gardz® is recommended for damaged drywall, new drywall, spackling and joint compound skim … You can try painting over it, but again it's clear, so no help with covering stains or discoloration. Lots of tape and plastic involved. Truly, DAG of Charlotte. #diy #drywall #skimcoat … Your post was extremely helpful and gave me the confidence to do it myself. Trying to decide if I really need to move them. So in later projects, I actually used the RX-35 to seal the drywall, then do the mud work, then use a separate primer once I was ready for paint. – Daniel Griscom Jul 4 '16 at 2:10. I'm think of buying and cutting drywall for practice. Date published: 2019-05-29. Nice tutorial. GARDZ … So if you want to keep your walls pristine after all of that hard work, don’t skimp on the last step! Okay, so now that you’ve got the right tools for the job, it’s time to get to work. Sounds like you’ve got a lot of experience to do this well. Dear Sarah, If you find such an area, you can easily take a normal putty knife and fill in gaps with extra mud or sand down ridges. Is there anything that can be done to make the walls smooth if paint was applied before skimming? Under wallcovering – GARDZ penetrates, seals, sizes and protects drywall facing paper and skim coats. I am the worse drywaller … getting by the project but a looong way off. Remove covers from electrical outlets and heating vents or other objects on the wall. I spent several hours the other night trying to figure out what the heck I was doing when it came to making my walls look presentable after thinking “I’ll just rip down this wallpaper and paint, and it’ll be a cinch!” No siree-bob. Any recommendations? see more Gardz is applied on top of the skim, then paint is applied on top of Gardz. ): 1. Hmm, is there any bubbling that you need to scrape away? Subscribing is one of the best ways to get updates, snag DIY tips, and see progress! After that seal the walls with Gardz then spray on Sherwin williams Prep rite Primer/surfacer then paint. Thanks so much for doing the legwork on this! Hi, my bud just forwarded me your article. First I applied a Gardz problem surface sealer and then skim coated two rounds. After peeling the paper off in my dining room, I noticed that the first skim coat would sometimes bubble slightly when the paper layer was weak or peeling (and although you can spend hours removing each peeling piece, it’s impossible to eliminate this possibility 100%). I do like the sponge enough for quick repairs! I didn't realize I could do that to a manual sander. Hip hip, hooray. here it is May and I am STILL sheetrocking!!! But your blog has helped me realize the length and dust is normal. At the end of the day if I had some mixed joint compount (I tried to use only what I needed to minimize it), I scraped the majority into a trash bag and really tried to get as much as I could off with my taping knife so there was very little to clean. And what is the purpose of this blog, if not to pass on the knowledge I’ve picked up? I won't bid a job any other way. Or maybe I need to throw more elbows around in the house? 1. Removing the tile itself gave me a break down. I removed … Waynetta likes this. Luckily, my kids love me, so they don't complain about their drywall bathroom :). Bottom line, bathroom walls in general aren’t often hosed down with water to the amount that drywall should be getting soaking wet except in areas meant to be waterproofed (such as a steam room or shower walls where you tile over the wall). I was told that a product called Gardz once put on the wall would take care of any residue paste before we prime and paint the walls. Thank you! It definitely gives me the courage to really give the project a go! I occasionally talk about other things, like life and food and travel, but it's mostly my obsession with DIY and power tools that you'll find here! Eek! At least what it would take to smooth the skim coat of drywall mud. (*Note:  some of these photos have been darkened to enhance the difference between the wet mud and wall – it’s hard to see off-white on white*). I am in the middle of redoing my grandmas bathroom and it has been a nightmare. Will the Zinsser Gardz sealer prep these walls for the Skim coat to adhere to both painted surfaces and the torn the paper? I started with DIY projects but then friends kept tapping me on the shoulder for advice so ended up just starting my own company! Be sure to also read the follow-up post so you can get more details on things I’ve learned over the years (here). Had to order the RX-35 since no one carries it around here, think it will be worth it based on your experiences. Thanks much! • Damaged Drywall - GARDZ prevents bubbles that form when damaged drywall is skim coated with spackling or joint compound. I've been searching all night for an answer on the net, and I'm just not finding a complete answer, so that's why I am posting now. Fantastic, Denise! You give such good lessons. Good luck on your project! - New gypsum drywall, joint compound and spackling are very porous and can make finish coatings appear splotchy and uneven. We are also scraping popcorn ceilings. I've read so people have used 1-2-3 and had great success, I've read people used GARDZ and had great success. Thanks for the tip. There is a water-based product I found that I really like that I discuss there! NEW DRYWALL/JOINT COMPOUND AND SPACKLING GARDZ penetrates and uniformly seals, creating a moisture resistant film that protects drywall from blistering, tearing and other damage when re … Jump to section: Tools Needed | Sealing Damage | Skim Coating | Sanding | Painting | Cleanup Tips. I am also repairing my powder room from a bad wallpaper removal using your tips and techniques. The premixes stay wet longer and dry from the inside out, they must fully dry before more work can be done…this is where the Easy Sand dry mix comes into play. June 3, 2014 Failed to get answers. I am SO going to start using this line… I hope that okay! Since no sizing was applied to the wallpaper before slapping it on, the builders of my beloved UDH made my job really hard. Subscribing is one of the best ways to get updates, snag DIY tips, and see progress! Under paint – GARDZ seals and prepares damaged drywall for any architectural oil-base or latex paint. Since even lightweight joint compound needs to be thinned out a bit for skim coating work, you might want to stir in thin texture compound if you have some. After speaking with the Zinsser technical team regarding this product and the condition of the walls in which it would be used they assured me this was the product for the job, however, the sealer didn't ad-hear to the mist coat (50-50 water and emulsion) and was easy to peel away, some places more so than others. It is the middle of winter making the thought of using the oil based primer even less appealing than usual, it's not a … I am go through the exact process in my own Powder Room although I have to admit I did most of the damage myself when I moved junction boxes to new locals. Thanks so much. After skim-coating, … If it’s some kind of patch where the rest of the wall is dirty and you put new joint compound in a section, you should still clean the rest of the wall before painting, but try not to get the joint compound area wet again. And so glad to have you following! Val spar ceiling paint is fine, sherwin williams is also good- ask for ceiling paint, if they are confused tell them “the old Duron color code 914white”. If the wall is already painted, priming before skim coating may not be necessary. Re-posting content is not allowed, no exceptions. If you start to see the blade of the knife get gunky even after scraping the excess off, use a wet rag to wipe clean and begin again. Thank you a million times for your post. Sucks that you’re having to go through it, but I’m glad my tutorials have helped! Thanks for any info . One of the best ways to keep the paper edges from fraying and showing up when you paint is to seal them with a 50/50 mixture of an oil based sanding sealer and paint thinner. You’re welcome! I have been skimming nightly in my office and the clean up is absolutely back breaking! I could not find any other product that claimed to seal glue and there were other Zinsser products on the shelves but not Gardz. In addition to the right tools, you’ll also need the right lighting to do a proper sanding job. Thank you for excellent advice, delightfully presented. you seem to have a ton of knowledge about this DIY home repair stuff, so i thought you might be able to help clarify a few things for me: 1) what’s the consequence of NOT thinning out the joint compound before coating the walls with it using spackling knives? I've been searching all night for an answer on the net, and I'm just not finding a complete answer, so that's why I am posting now. 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